Sunday, February 3, 2008

loading 35mm film in Kodak DUAFLEX II

How to load 35 mm film in Kodak DUAFLEX II

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The Kodak Duaflex usually takes medium format film. 120 or 620 (i think they're the same). I got mine off ebay for a few bucks and I don't use 120 film, so I modified it to take 35mm film.

Things you need :

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-tape
-Kodak Duaflex
-35mm film; slide, color or BW negatives, infrared, etc
-white paper
-silver tape

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Step 1:

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First, tape off the backing window with tape. If you end up with red dots over your film, that means you haven't used the right amount of tape. I ruined a few rolls like that and now I put a piece of cardboard on top of the red circle and then tape it up. Do the same on the inside of the camera.

Step 2:

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You need to make adjustments for the 35mm film to stay in place because the space for the 120 film spool is so much bigger. Therefore, you have to put some styrofoam or cardboard on each side of the film canister to keep it in place so that it doesn't move all over the place when you handle the camera.

Step 3:

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Tape the film to the spool so that it doesn't move.

Step 4:

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Put the film into place in the camera. Push the winding knob in so that the spool is locked in. At this point, you can put the carboard pieces in to hold the film canister in place, unless this hasn't been already been done in step 2.

Step 4:

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I found it necessary to put an additional piece of white paper on the film because in my camera for some reason i get this annoying light leak right in front of the fream, so this will keep the area clean. Be careful because if you use paper with print on it, the writing will be printed on your film as per the lightleaks.

Step 5:


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Close the camera and tape it shut. I do this because on many occasions the damn thing has opened up. The lock is probably worn off.


THE END

REMEMBER!!

It takes FIVE(5) whole turns for the film to advance properly to the next frame.

57 comments:

Edward B. Gordon said...

brilliant idea, thank you !

Rob said...

This is a great tutorial, but how do you wind the film back into the canister?

GM said...

well you need to take it apart in a darkroom, or at night.

Rob said...

ah, ok. i do have access to a b&w dark room, but if i wanted to shoot color, i could just push the film back into the canister?

GM said...

no it has nothing to do with colour or BW. If you're at the end of your roll, if you open up the camera to take the film cartridge out, the film gets exposed. So you need to do that in darkness and then roll the film back into the canister, regardless if it's BW or colour film.

Once you get it back in(which is fairly easy) you just develop it whichever way you wish.

I hope that helps :)

rob said...

aah now i understand. i was thinking that I could have only rolled the film back into a film reel/tank used for processing film, and i have never tried to roll film back into its original canister.

anyway thanks for the help, i'm a retard at times!

Anonymous said...

This is fantastic. My KDII is in the mail on its way from EBAY ( I love Ebay). Can't wait to try this! So will you end up with sprocket holes on your shot?

GM said...

yes you will. Sprockets are the coolest thing! :D

Anonymous said...

awesome i dont have any other cameras that can sprocket...not even my pinholes..
i cant wait.
my KD2 is in the mail
Yay ebay!

Anonymous said...

ok so what are sprocket holes?

Andy C said...

Sweet. I'm going to try this with one of my duaflex's.

alice4hatter said...

If I were to use 120 film, would I have to cover the red dot?

GM said...

not with 120. But YES with 220 film because it has no backing paper.

Andrew Culture said...

In all the fuss I've been making trying to figure out how to make 120 fit my duaflex, I can't believe I overlooked 35mm!
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GM said...

Andrew...did you figure out the 120? You just trim the spool down and it'll fit ;)

Andrew Culture said...

I'm literally just buying some reels now! I'm going to clean the bugger and run some 35mm film through it first :)
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bookworm831 said...

this is brilliant!
do you know if 110 film will fit into it?

GM said...

i've never worked with 110 film before....but i'm thinking the canisters are different. So you might need to do some respooling..

bookworm831 said...

yeah, i bought some today and tried too but then i found some 35mm and just did what you did, i hope it works! im sooo excited to see the outcome:)

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Andrew Culture said...

Word of warning, this is what happens if you don't cover that red window up well enough!
http://lawsie.blogspot.com/2009/03/first-scans-from-kodak-duaflex.html
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bookworm831 said...

thanks:)
do you think they can develope it at the local bartell drugs?

GM said...

by god Andrew those are FANTASTIC!! yes i too ended up with the dreaded red dot due to poor coverup...tsk!

bookworm-yes they will if it's 35mm film, not 110. can't wait to see your results!

Andrew Culture said...

Admittedly taken with a Kodak Brownie Cresta (which has even less controls than the Duaflex!) but I'm starting to get the sort of results I want now!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lawsie/sets/72157616174140464/
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bookworm831 said...

ugh! it didnt work:( there was stuff on the negetives but they couldnt develope it for some reason, hmm...ill keep trying and experiment, but do you think i did something wrong?

GM said...

i don't think so...try again..
and tape the red window properly

and also try a different photo lab next time

bookworm831 said...

ok, thanks dude:)

Andrew Culture said...

I've never heard of anyone that couldn't process C41, they normally bung it in a machine and ignore it for an hour! The first few films I got back had maybe two or three exposures on the entire roll and they still took my 99p (Tescos) and didn't blink an eyelid!
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miguel. said...

the pictures aren't showing up!
could you please fix this?

thanks

Naida said...

so... this may be a stupid question but I really don't know this so: do you develop your films yourself or do you send them in? because if you sent them in the photos would be cut-off, right? I don't really have the resources to develop the film myself so I was really hoping that I could send them in...

thanks.

Andrew Culture said...

It's not the developing that cuts them down it's the printing, so I get the film developed then scan the negatives myself.

jiorji said...

Naida, the film can still be sent to the lab for development. It changes nothing. Just the framing.

I usually scan the film on my own

Lindsey said...

Thanks for the tutorial! I have on of these beauties, picked up some 35mm film today, and plan on trying it tonight.

Actually, the spools on 120 and 620 are a bit different, so 120 won't quite fit in this camera. If you want to use medium-format film, you can get some old 620 on ebay, or if you have a 620 spool, respool some 120 on it.

vincent b. said...

Well useful post ! And the comment thread is just as useful :)
Got my duaflex today to make TTVS but I love it so much that i'm going to take pics with it. Found 620 films on internet in germany, but want to experience with sprocketed 35mm pics.
Do you have a bit more information about the instant shitter speed of the duaflex? I'm confused there's no setttings at all, I'd love to know a bit more about shutter speed and what/when/how you're supposed to shoot with it, depending on ISO speed film you've put in it.
Thanks!

Omer said...

Very helpful thread! Thank you all for the info. I just tried this with my Duaflex and did not exactly get good results. I am having trouble identifying when I enter the next frame. Also, The film begins to wind a little off to the side. Any suggestions?

jiorji said...

Omer- it takes a few trials and errors. Usually, i think it takes a full turn to get to the next frame. Maybe 1.25 turn. As for the alignment, just make sure the film is taped straight in the middle, and at a perfect(or so) 90* angle to the spool....make sense??

it kind of sucks to get the shot crooked, but i wouldn't worry too much about the frames if you get the turn wrong and they overlap.

Fernanda Salazar Sampogna said...

hi! great idea... i just got one today and for a moment i tought i was helpless...

it's just that mine is first generation, and it doesn't has f: .... how can i know?

and one more thing... i suppose the 620 film occupied the whole inside of the box, so... what i see on the mirror is not what i will get on the film, right? i will capture the middle of what i see, half of it...

thanks for your help!

Holly Anne said...

i have been meaning to try this for months since i bought my duaflex ii on ebay and found this piece. maybe next week i will finally give it a shot. i would love to see some photos that you took using your duaflex ii with 35mm film or anyone else's for that matter.

TrishyRaven said...

i was watching a vid on youtube about this, on here i see you recommend turning the dial 1 and a quater turns, on the vid its recommending 5 turns to forward the film... loll i guess i have wasted a few frames on my first film huh? so 1 full turn and a quater should do it to avoid double exposures???

Malarkeys said...

thanks for the info, i just made my camera with the duaflex III, hopefully it works

Mia said...

So it's specifically 5 whole turns throughout the whole roll? p.s. thanks SO much for this, it was super helpful!

Serendipity said...

Brilliant! Just loaded up a 35mm film...we'll see what happens!

chardyice said...

So if I use 35mm film on my duaflex, will it still show up as a 6x6 square format? Or something?

FIVE complete winds makes it, what, square format, or your usual landscape size?

Twila Jean said...

brilliant! Our dulaflex appears to have come with these amazing 35mm adapters in it?? They look manufactured specifically for this. I am not sure, Have you ever heard of this? well thanks for all the info! we are off to play with ours today!!!

Anonymous said...

I just got my film developed today. The lady said that the film was in panoramic. She told me to buy disposable camera or just take it to a professional photographer. Do you think I should just tell them to print it in panoramic next time?

jiorji said...

no it's not panoramic. It just looks that way because the way the frame is bigger. She doesn't know what your experiment is and there's no need to explain to her. Yes i'd ask to have it printed panoramic.I think part of the frame will get cut off anyways. Or you can get a scanner and scan it at home. that's what i do

hope this helps

Anonymous said...

I think I try to tell them that next time. What kind of scanner do you use? I know nothing about this stuff.

Anonymous said...

how many times do you wind the spool to advance the film?

brubeck1954 said...

What kind of scanner do you use? Costco developed the film but didn't print it. Said it was double exposed. I can see the pictures on the film roll ...

william said...

i have a dualflex 4 and want to know if this info still applies. is it still four full turns until the next frame? can i load the 35mm film the same way?? or are the spool and where the film is placed different sizes compared to a dualflez 2?

william said...

ooops..five turns lol

Daniel said...

"5 full turns" as in five turns of the knob, each being a full revolution of the knob, actually got me only 6 exposures on a 24 "in a 35mm camera" roll. There is about 3 inches between each image, so I'm thinking everyone meant 5 "half turns"?

Daniel said...

Ok, so this time, I started with 2 full turns and got about an inch between the first few frames, but the. Spaces got wider as the exposed roll got bigger, to around 2 inches between near the end of the roll. I got 11 frames from what would normally be a 24 exp roll in a 35mm camera.

Anonymous said...

I just got this camera and was wondering where the battery life is in it? I got the camera from my grandparents. The only thing they didn't give me was one of those flash bulbs (they didn't have it) , is that a necessity for this camera or no?

Anonymous said...

Hi,
I want ask how many turns of the crank I need to do to move the roll to next frame?? because if I'm not mistaken each photo will be impressed on about 4-8 frames of 35mm film.

Anonymous said...

HELLO!!!!!
I have a Duaflex IV camera...And I simply cannot get the roll of film inside. The back does not close at all. Did you remove anything from your camera before loading the film? Thanks so much...

Jiorji said...

Hi. It has to fit in a certain way or ot won't close. Try to turn it a little bit